Enjoy a day of family, friends, food, and giving thanks, Pride Landers!
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Enjoy a day of family, friends, food, and giving thanks, Pride Landers!
I've been debating this for a while, but I'm not sure if screenshots should count as official sources because they're easy to fake, edit, or manipulate. As a matter of fact, there have been times where users have done just that to insert their fan theories into the articles (these fake screenshots have since been removed). I think it would be more appropriate to link to the actual Facebook post or Tweet in question to verify the screenshot's legitimacy, at least if a link is available. Thoughts?
I think that if Simba didn't return, the hyenas would've eventually just killed and eaten Scar in general. When he was still king, he was terrible and did absolutely nothing for the lionesses, or hyenas' cause, and he was willing to let everybody starve and die in the hostile conditions. Banzai even compares him to Mufasa, and we know that this triggers Scar enough to make him hit someone.
Assuming that Simba either died in the stampede, or was killed by the hyenas, or in general, never returned to the Pride Lands, Scar would've been King for longer than he was in the film, which meant that the hyenas would have to deal with Scar's nonsense even more. In the movie, the hyenas killed Scar not just for his betrayal, but as payback for his broken promises. Him blaming the hyenas for Mufasa's death was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. So if the hyenas endured more of Scar's selfishness as King, that would have been it for them.
Now, I'm not sure if the hyenas would team up with the lionesses for this one since the hyenas would be a reason why the famine occurred, but considering that lives would be at stake, I think Sarabi and Nala especially would have to take the risk.
The big factor we have here are the Outsiders, including Zira. They would have tried to defend Scar, and with the 7 lionesses we see in the climax of the original film, it wouldn't look too good, but I think about 200-400 hyenas would've evened the odds for everyone.
And here's the twist: Sarabi would most likely have exiled the hyenas when this was done. It sounds manipulative, but in her POV it would be justified.
I doubt anyone would've dared to harm Zira's cubs because they were just cubs. I'd just think that Sarabi or one of the lionesses would've raised them, and taught Kovu how to be a respectful King and defend the Circle of Life.
I didn't mean to offend anybody.
Hi everyone I love watching people show me what they think about the lion king in their fanfiction the lion king has an intresting story and timeline every fan has their own opinion! Today's theme of what's your fanfic is the Night Pride! What do you think would happen next to this mysterious group of animals!
Hey everyone it's been months since I last did a what's your fanfic so I'm making another one today's theme is Vitani's guard! I can't wait to see everyone's fanfics! I'll do another one tomorrow
Spoilers: Next time's one has something to do with the tree of life
Ok, my main headcanon: TLK takes place in late Pangea.
If you don't know what Pangea is, Pangea is basically an enormous super-continent combined of all the continents. Pangea was believed to be broken apart due to shifting tectonic places, which had separated landforms from each other, and even created islands off of continents, such as Madagascar in Africa, or Tasmania in Australia.
Now, how does this fit with TLK/TLG? Well, Season 3 of the Lion Guard takes us out of the Pride Lands, showing many areas such as Indonesia, The Himalayan mountains, the Great Salt Lake, and the desert. Yet only ONCE do we see them go over-seas, ONCE, and that is in the Komodo episode. And Kion gains the idea to use the Roar to go over-seas, so how the heck would he be able to move overseas in the first place?
ANSWER: He didn't have to/it wasn't that difficult! Because the supercontinent did not require him having to swim the Atlantic Freaking Ocean! The fact that Komodo Island is shown to have an ocean around it, implies that TLG takes place in late Pangea when the continents just started to shift apart.
The second act of Season 3 however, basically confirms this, because it shows the territories all over-lapping with each other. How would that happen unless there was something to keep them apart? Because the Arctic is not in India, nor is the marsh, or a camel desert. So the land would have to be one big continent, from the Pride Lands to the Tree of Life. This makes way too much sense
I have ALWAYS noticed this in the movie, yet I'm surprised that this hasn't even popped up in anyone's minds.
So at the film's climax, Scar accuses the hyenas of plotting Mufasa's death, as a way of getting mercy from Simba. Now obviously the hyenas do not take kindly to Scar throwing them under the bus, so once he's defeated, they kill him.
But then you notice one other thing: In the scene right before Be Prepared, Scar expresses his disdain over the hyenas' failure to kill Simba and Nala. Shenzi defends herself by saying that the cubs weren't alone, and Banzai says, "What are we supposed to do? Kill Mufasa?" And that's when Scar gains his idea.
Now a few arguments to this are that Shenzi and Banzai did not mean to give him this idea. In addition, it was partially their fault as to why the cubs escaped since they did nothing but screw around with them and Zazu until they had the cubs cornered, and THAT is when Mufasa came in and handed their butts to them.
However, even with those arguments, it's easy to say that Scar simply gained the idea from their unintentional wording. Plus, it seemed like Scar was only trying to take out Simba so that he himself would be Mufasa's heir and take over when he dies, since nowhere before the villains' song does Scar try to, or even majorly hint that he wants to kill Mufasa.
So it's basically arguable that the hyenas did [unintentionally] give Scar the idea to kill Mufasa, and that they had basically killed Mufasa in doing so. The hyenas could've been mad when they heard Scar betray them to Simba because it's possible that they themselves knew that they accidentally gave Scar the idea, and were worried that Simba would kill them, which in turn had made them angry at Scar for handing them over to him, so they ultimately killed him as revenge.
I just can't wait to be king! = I just can't wait for my dad to die!
Kilmarnock228- "I just can't wait for my dad to retire!"
DisneyFan202- "I just can't wait until I get old!"
MyPatronusIsAHawk- "I just can't wait until I'm going to have to deal with multiple animals complaining about everything and raising taxes and making alliances with other kingdoms and facing Outlanders and trying not to scream as the government policies try to kill me with tiredness!"
I have a very unpopular (or popular) opinion about Simba and Nala in The Lion Guard, so you might want to click off if you don't prefer that.
You're still here? Fine then. Let's begin.
Simba and Nala were... pretty crappy parents, and dare I say rulers in TLG - I'm not even going to be blunt here, they were pretty bad.
Firstly, they allowed Kion, their young son, to go on dangerous patrols facing down Outlanders, who were all likely twice his age, and could kill a cub.
When Kiara was trapped in a stampede, they did nothing to save her, leaving her life in the hands of other vulnerable children, and Kiara's hero is instead, a honey badger having the time of his life, and even when they nurture Kiara after she is dragged to safety, Simba directs his attention to giving Kion his blessing to have non-lion animals in the Guard.
Speaking of which, Simba was also irresponsible when it came to telling Kion about the Lion Guard. He was so vague with the information he gave to Kion about the Lion Guard that Kion didn't know that the Guard was only made of lions, and yet it surprised him when he found out that Kion chose Bunga of all animals to be on the Lion Guard. Then he goes around saying that only lions can be in the Guard when he himself was adopted by a warthog and a meerkat AND was baptized and advised by a crazy mandrill-baboon hybrid.
And not to mention, when Simba hosted the savannah summit, he didn't tell Kion that the crocodiles were a part of the summit until Kion attacked Makuu. And even after the explanation, Simba still yelled at Kion, accusing him of ruining the summit. No, Kion should not have jumped to conclusions, but at the same time, he had a right to be hesitant of Makuu because Makuu had caused chaos in the Circle of Life, after overthrowing Pua, he and his float had made multiple attempts on Beshte's life, including him trying to eat him and Mtoto, or Makuu trying to take down Basi just to give him an excuse to break the rules, and let's not forget, he had taken over the flood-plains after hearing that Kion was afraid to use the Roar, captured his friends, and later attacked Nala, using her as a meat-shield to taunt Kion. Kion had every right to not trust Makuu, yet was vilified for not trusting him, when really, Simba should have told his son in advance to this and try to reason with him to not jump to conclusions.
When Janja kidnapped Kiara and hauled her off to the Outlands to summon Scar, Kion, and co. went on a charge, yet Simba and Nala didn't follow them at all, and had they did, they would've managed to help Kion beat the hyenas, grab Kiara, and get out of there before Janja could anger Kion and make him Roar at the volcano. It's easy to say that Makini only alerted the Guard so only they knew, but Simba and Nala would notice if Kion, Kiara, and the Lion Guard were missing, and would obviously ask Makini or Rafiki where they were.
During Scar's ghost's numerous attacks against the Pride Lands, it was only Kion and the Lion Guard, as well as many Pride Landers who fought against them. Not once did Simba, Nala, and/or the lionesses try to help, since, you know, they own the place. Simba only partook in one fight, which was when Mzimu grove was seized by Janja and the other villains, and that didn't go so well.
I think one GOOD example of him being a decent King is that he respected everyone's decisions to leave the Pride Lands when they found out that Scar came back, and it's understandable as to why he didn't tell anyone in the first place. Not to mention, when Janja invaded the Pride Lands behind Kion's back, Nala confronted him and later confronted Makuu when he took over the flood-plains. And there was when Simba confronted Reirei at the Kupatana Celebration.
But when Kion is a young teen, Simba instructs him to lead the attack and is barely present during the war with Scar's spirit, making it look like Simba carries all of his responsibilities onto Kion, despite his experience in the original film teaching him that you can't run away from, or in this case, re-direct your responsibilities.
And let's not forget that Simba had easily forgiven and accepted Janja when Janja himself has harassed Kiara multiple times, threatened the Lion Guard's life, and tried to suffocate them all in Pride Rock.
Yet Simba was less accepting of Kovu, whose only "crime" was being the son of a crazy lioness who accused Simba of cruelly murdering his uncle, and wanted him and Kiara dead, so it comes across as favoritism on Simba's end. So Simba's docile nature is not only dangerous for his children, but for the entire Kingdom.
With Nala, I'm not entirely surprised since her character was kinda botched in the second movie to make her docile, (Which I already disliked, but I didn't like how TLG re-inforced that personality) but in TLK 2, Simba saved Kiara's life 2 times. The first was when Zira ambushed her and Kovu, the second was when she and Zira fell into the gorge and Kiara was stranded on a ledge. Not to mention he was naturally worried about Kiara's safety due to her experience being similar to his when he lost his father and got abused by his hyena-loving uncle, and had to spend his teen years in the jungle.
This decision to make Simba less of a responsible parent than he is in the films was most likely intentional by the writers to make Kion more relatable to the younger audience by having his parents be less protective over him when he goes off to fight crime and stuff, but then that becomes another problem when you realize that regardless of whether or not you view TLG as part of the second film's time-line, it looks very bad on Simba and Nala's part.
And I know the show intentionally refused to address this factor and instead treat Simba and Nala sending their 15-year old son out to war as a normal thing because it's mainly aimed towards 8 year-olds, and the Disney Jr. team was probably scared that kids would end up viewing Simba in a negative light, or get unwarranted confusion towards whether or not Simba is the good guy if there was an episode or moment in the series that calls him and Nala out for being too docile, but still, half of the conflict that goes on in the show, including Janja constantly bothering Kiara, him and his cronies summoning The Lion Satan, and Kion receiving a work-place injury after leading the final battle against the Outlanders is mainly a product of Simba and Nala's irresponsibility as parents AND rulers.
People say TLK 2 ruined Simba and Nala's personalities, but no matter what side of the fight you are on, TLG does not do a good job at showing Simba and Nala as competent, or responsible parents what-so-ever.
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In just one more week, it will be the fifth anniversary of the initial airing of The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar.
And then, two days afterward, it will be the big 3-O for Sarah Hyland (who, by the way, had been in a production of Annie twice: first in Disney's production as Molly, and then in a stage production as its title character).
So yeah. We all think Scar is the evil lion. But is he really? In my honest opinion, Mufasa is worse.
When Scar is with Mufasa in the beginning of the movie, and Zazu jokes about turning him into a throw rug. And Mufasa smiles. He smiles. And to me, Zazu sounded pretty darn serious. On top of that, Scar was still in hearing range. Scar heard them joking about killing him. I dare you to watch that scene again without feeling sorry for Scar.
Scar promises food for the hyenas. Yeah yeah I know they over eat, but still. He is changing a type of bias against other predators. THINK ABOUT IT. The lions are feasting on antelope, while the hyenas rely on Scar to bring food to them. They're not allowed where there's food. Mufasa has practically condemned them to death by starvation. Scar kept them alive. Scar made it more equal. It's not his fault that they ate everything, they were just hungry from years of starvation.
SCAR DOES NOT CAUSE THE DROUGHT! It's a natural thing! Why does everybody blame this on him?!
So there you have it. Are you convinced? Do you want more reasons?
(P.S. I know he kills his brother and all that. It's part of the circle of life y'all. Deal with it.)
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(Let me preface this by saying I'm still trying to figure out how to post things here, so I'm not sure if I did everything right...)
This is a drawing of Vitani I did a few months ago (don't ask why I didn't post it here earlier :P). I realized not too long ago that I didn't exactly get her head shape correct, but I'm still satisfied with how the drawing turned out. Feel free to leave your comments and critiques!
Ok, so here is yet another theory, but this is something that not many people have talked about.
So let's give a run-down on the story behind the Roar of the Elders.
The Roar of the Elders was discovered by Prince Askari of the Pride Lands, who eventually gained its power and became the leader of the Pride Lands' Lion Guard.
Askari had discovered all of the Roar's abilities, at one point, used it to put out a fire at the Tree of Life.
Askari eventually DID return to the Pride Lands, taking the Roar with him, and using it in combat alongside his comrades, most notably, the battle against the Evil LIons of the Past.
The Roar has been passed down from generation to generation.
We KNOW that the Roar could be used for both good and evil, which means there is no source of equal power that serves as a counterpart to the Roar of the Elders. It is a singular force that cannot be neutralized.
We also know that should the user's mind be corrupted, disoriented, or twisted, the Roar will be uncontrollable and will have dark effects, in which it is the Dark Roar.
The Roar can summon both good spirits and evil. With good spirits, whenever the user uses the Roar, they will always appear specifically to Roar alongside the user or can summon past Lion Guard leaders/members, and they will always appear in bright clouds. With evil spirits, they will appear if the user roars amongst fire, and then a Bakora Staff is engulfed in flame, which will allow the evil spirit to materialize within the flame and appear to the mortals.
Whenever an evil spirit is summoned, they have the ability to Roar within the fires that manifest them.
Using the Roar would not be able to destroy an evil spirit, but only increase the energy of the flames surrounding said spirit.
A user has the ability to use the Roar at its most powerful state.
So as we have established before, the Roar does not have any light or darkness of evil power, as it is capable of both elements. But this is the bit where it gets interesting.
Stop here if you are lost, because this is a very important part.
The Roar seems to be able to summon multiple good spirits when the Roar's powers are being used, but when it comes to evil spirits, it only seems like a singular evil spirit gets summoned at a time, and unlike the evil spirits, the user's roar does not make them roar alongside them.
But once again, we have established that good and evil are a part of the Roar, evident with the Dark Roar of the Elders.
But what if the Dark Roar was much more powerful than how we see it?
What if a charged Dark Roar can summon the evil spirits of the past to Roar alongside them?
The way I see it, the Roar's powers of good and evil seem to be a balance, no side could destroy the other. So ultimately, if the Roar can summon good spirits to roar along with them, then the Roar can summon evil elder spirits to not only appear but roar alongside the user, causing destruction in its path, similar to the Dark Roar, only more intended and destructive. It wouldn't be just good kings, but evil kings roaring alongside the prince or princess.
This also ties into my headcanon about the Strange Lion: He was descended from the Evil Lions of the Past, so ultimately he would want to take revenge on the Roar and finish what his ancestors started by using Scar's ego and power against his pride, which would work, but not in the way he expected. Accordin heg to Scar's story, the Strange Lion claimed he had a cure for the snake's venom, but would only give it to him if Scar had agreed to do as he said. But how would he know this?
ANSWER: He went to the Tree of Life, but why would he be there in the first place? Because the Tree was the birth-place of the Roar of the Elders, and he could potentially have traveled there in order to seek out a dark source of equal power that could neutralize the spiritual goodness of the Roar, before finding out that the Roar is capable of both good and evil, resorting to his plan to trick Scar into using the Roar against Mufasa, and maybe he even decided to take Scar near the volcano, because he knew that the Roar was not only capable of summoning evil spirits but summoning them to Roar alongside him, and it's possible that had Scar agreed to join the Lion, he would have learned how to use the Roar of the Elders to summon evil spirits to roar alongside him.
Oh, and get this: In Rafiki's New Neighbors, Makini loses her bakora staff in a fire that surrounds her tree, and Kion uses the Roar to get rid of the fire.
This would have essentially summoned an Evil Spirit due to the Bakora Staff being engulfed in fire, and activated by the Roar that can materialize an evil spirit within the fire. So essentially, there could be another Evil Lion of the Past lurking around in the Pride, or Outlands that we don't know about, and if this evil spirit did not appear during the era of Scar's return, then this evil spirit could be a greater threat than Scar and Zira combined!
I think I just BROKE The Lion Guard.
So I got too lazy to draw this digitally, which is why it doesn't look as good as it could be. I was too lazy to properly even shade or draw the fire.... and I suck at drawing manes.
Feedback please? I can really use some help.
So waddya think I tried my best and I think I pulled it off! I know Fuli doesn't look like a cheetah but it was the best I could do XD Beshte at the top is missing a nametag! Sorry if these aren't the characters you were hoping for just tell me and I'll make it!